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	<description>thoughts on markets &#38; cetera  - christopher carolan</description>
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		<title>By: AndyB</title>
		<link>http://carolan.org/2009/11/whats-working-what-isnt/comment-page-1/#comment-1384</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@chrisss. Technically I see this as an ending diagonal because of the repeating 3 wave structure. The trendline break at the recent low has thrown many into believing the top was in but, imo, that break was caused by the structure of the 4th wave, an irregular flat starting on Sept 3 and ending  Nov 2 with a c wave  of 5 waves down; which also caused many to believe a top was in. We now have to be patient and wait for the 5th wave to complete; but I think this will be in Dec or even Jan. There will be plenty of downside for the bears so we can afford to wait. If the next big move down is the wave &#039;big C&#039; then the target, if C=A will be a long way down!
For Taylor&#039;s target high to be met it must occur in 2009; but that does not mean that the final high cannot be in Jan 2010, but that is the latest time by my reckoning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@chrisss. Technically I see this as an ending diagonal because of the repeating 3 wave structure. The trendline break at the recent low has thrown many into believing the top was in but, imo, that break was caused by the structure of the 4th wave, an irregular flat starting on Sept 3 and ending  Nov 2 with a c wave  of 5 waves down; which also caused many to believe a top was in. We now have to be patient and wait for the 5th wave to complete; but I think this will be in Dec or even Jan. There will be plenty of downside for the bears so we can afford to wait. If the next big move down is the wave &#8216;big C&#8217; then the target, if C=A will be a long way down!<br />
For Taylor&#8217;s target high to be met it must occur in 2009; but that does not mean that the final high cannot be in Jan 2010, but that is the latest time by my reckoning.</p>
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		<title>By: ehogervorst</title>
		<link>http://carolan.org/2009/11/whats-working-what-isnt/comment-page-1/#comment-1381</link>
		<dc:creator>ehogervorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chrisss. I&#039;ve been following the 1987 analogy. The 1987 analysis implies that Nov 16 should be a low and Nov 23 a high...In my opinion Nov 16 will be a high...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chrisss. I&#8217;ve been following the 1987 analogy. The 1987 analysis implies that Nov 16 should be a low and Nov 23 a high&#8230;In my opinion Nov 16 will be a high&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chrisss</title>
		<link>http://carolan.org/2009/11/whats-working-what-isnt/comment-page-1/#comment-1380</link>
		<dc:creator>Chrisss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  I have to admit I have still got half an eye on 23NOV as per Spiral Calendar 1929 / 87 key date analysis.  (see Chris&#039;s comments under SC).

I fully concur that this analysis has very little chance of success, but the coincidence of the key dates so far is nonetheless intreiguing enough to keep my attention.  I don&#039;t necessarily believe there will be a crash either, but just that these key SC dates lead to significant trend changes that could lead to 3 weeks of hard down action...  just after Nov options expiry !

I don&#039;t know if anyone else has been remotely following this via VirginiaJim + there&#039;s still a week to go until the next key date, by which time it may already be void, so I&#039;ll leave further comment until then.

A bit of down, then up to 23Nov would seem to be the best outcome.  This would also fit with EW ending diagonal (although I don&#039;t like the fact it doesn&#039;t actually take on a diagonal shape)

Good weekend to all,
C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  I have to admit I have still got half an eye on 23NOV as per Spiral Calendar 1929 / 87 key date analysis.  (see Chris&#8217;s comments under SC).</p>
<p>I fully concur that this analysis has very little chance of success, but the coincidence of the key dates so far is nonetheless intreiguing enough to keep my attention.  I don&#8217;t necessarily believe there will be a crash either, but just that these key SC dates lead to significant trend changes that could lead to 3 weeks of hard down action&#8230;  just after Nov options expiry !</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if anyone else has been remotely following this via VirginiaJim + there&#8217;s still a week to go until the next key date, by which time it may already be void, so I&#8217;ll leave further comment until then.</p>
<p>A bit of down, then up to 23Nov would seem to be the best outcome.  This would also fit with EW ending diagonal (although I don&#8217;t like the fact it doesn&#8217;t actually take on a diagonal shape)</p>
<p>Good weekend to all,<br />
C</p>
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		<title>By: Chrisss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chrisss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your input guys.

EW is my bread &amp; butter.  I don&#039;t subscribe to EWI because I agree with pcampbell66 that they are simply not open-minded enough; furthermore they consistently call for tops rather than awaiting confirmation which knocks their credibility.  

With this new high, for me there is now no count that looks an obvious preferred count.  Indeed, if we get a blow-off top (which looks increasingly possible) NDX will blow past its .618 retracement AND take on a respectable 5 wave form from the lows, thereby severely questioning whether P3 will actually happen....    There again, if we inch &amp; chop our way a little higher before impulsing down in earnest...

Thus for the first time since March, I am turning neutral....  (which is probably good news for the bears!  I hope!!)

Fingers crossed for a turnaround this weekend :-) 

Cheers, Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your input guys.</p>
<p>EW is my bread &amp; butter.  I don&#8217;t subscribe to EWI because I agree with pcampbell66 that they are simply not open-minded enough; furthermore they consistently call for tops rather than awaiting confirmation which knocks their credibility.  </p>
<p>With this new high, for me there is now no count that looks an obvious preferred count.  Indeed, if we get a blow-off top (which looks increasingly possible) NDX will blow past its .618 retracement AND take on a respectable 5 wave form from the lows, thereby severely questioning whether P3 will actually happen&#8230;.    There again, if we inch &amp; chop our way a little higher before impulsing down in earnest&#8230;</p>
<p>Thus for the first time since March, I am turning neutral&#8230;.  (which is probably good news for the bears!  I hope!!)</p>
<p>Fingers crossed for a turnaround this weekend <img src='http://carolan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Cheers, Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Gold@3440</title>
		<link>http://carolan.org/2009/11/whats-working-what-isnt/comment-page-1/#comment-1375</link>
		<dc:creator>Gold@3440</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chrisss - I don&#039;t want to go into the detail of how these dates appear but for the 13th/16th we have multiple close &#039;hits&#039; or confluences - from both internal (my model) and external soucres (like Puetz).

I&#039;ll mention some of the external factors only  just so you get an idea and have the chance to reject out of hand: Puetz has the 18th  as a major inflection point in his 258-day cycle. The 15th marks the first of three waning squares between Saturn and Pluto. Go back in history to see what hard angles between these two planets lead to; According to Calleman we started the &#039;6th night&#039; (Mayan Calendar) on the 8th November. We also have an interesting new moon on the 16th. All these mean nothing unless you started with an open mind and did some reading and research. I can&#039;t tell you how many hours I&#039;ve spent (and in some cases wasted) on various searches. 

The bottom line is that we should get something &#039;interesting&#039; happening around the coming weekend. I hope it is in the markets but you can never be sure. These cycles are universal and don&#039;t always manifest their presence fully through the markets. It would be too easy if they did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chrisss &#8211; I don&#8217;t want to go into the detail of how these dates appear but for the 13th/16th we have multiple close &#8216;hits&#8217; or confluences &#8211; from both internal (my model) and external soucres (like Puetz).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll mention some of the external factors only  just so you get an idea and have the chance to reject out of hand: Puetz has the 18th  as a major inflection point in his 258-day cycle. The 15th marks the first of three waning squares between Saturn and Pluto. Go back in history to see what hard angles between these two planets lead to; According to Calleman we started the &#8217;6th night&#8217; (Mayan Calendar) on the 8th November. We also have an interesting new moon on the 16th. All these mean nothing unless you started with an open mind and did some reading and research. I can&#8217;t tell you how many hours I&#8217;ve spent (and in some cases wasted) on various searches. </p>
<p>The bottom line is that we should get something &#8216;interesting&#8217; happening around the coming weekend. I hope it is in the markets but you can never be sure. These cycles are universal and don&#8217;t always manifest their presence fully through the markets. It would be too easy if they did.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyB</title>
		<link>http://carolan.org/2009/11/whats-working-what-isnt/comment-page-1/#comment-1374</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a previous post I stated that other international markets were indicating another move up. We now seem to have that move. Since the March low I have been counting the up move as a C wave of an irregular/expanded flat correction; this has kept me long until now. The C wave seems to be taking the form of an ending diagonal (5 lots of 3 waves) and the current up move is the start of wave 5; the Fib target for this is 10717 on the Dow. Does anyone still think that Taylor&#039;s target of the 2006 low at 10683 will not be met? The time target is December when this ABC will be equal in time to the ABC down to Nov. The FTSE has made a new high today and is less than 200 points from Taylor&#039;s target of 5500. I certainly would not consider any short positions until after any Dec high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a previous post I stated that other international markets were indicating another move up. We now seem to have that move. Since the March low I have been counting the up move as a C wave of an irregular/expanded flat correction; this has kept me long until now. The C wave seems to be taking the form of an ending diagonal (5 lots of 3 waves) and the current up move is the start of wave 5; the Fib target for this is 10717 on the Dow. Does anyone still think that Taylor&#8217;s target of the 2006 low at 10683 will not be met? The time target is December when this ABC will be equal in time to the ABC down to Nov. The FTSE has made a new high today and is less than 200 points from Taylor&#8217;s target of 5500. I certainly would not consider any short positions until after any Dec high.</p>
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		<title>By: Chrisss</title>
		<link>http://carolan.org/2009/11/whats-working-what-isnt/comment-page-1/#comment-1373</link>
		<dc:creator>Chrisss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>emini has logged a new high.  Bah !

It seems to me a little premature to suggest the solunar model is now back in gear ?

Let&#039;s face it, pretty much nothing is working in this marketplace right now !  As an increasingly despondent bear already fully loaded up  (in retrospect foolishly) with Dec put warrants I am in need of some hope !

@ Gold, you recently put forward the 13th &amp; 16th as dates you were watching for a significant high.  With this becoming a possibility, perhaps you could tell me more / explain the logic behind  it.  Much appreciated :-)  Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>emini has logged a new high.  Bah !</p>
<p>It seems to me a little premature to suggest the solunar model is now back in gear ?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it, pretty much nothing is working in this marketplace right now !  As an increasingly despondent bear already fully loaded up  (in retrospect foolishly) with Dec put warrants I am in need of some hope !</p>
<p>@ Gold, you recently put forward the 13th &amp; 16th as dates you were watching for a significant high.  With this becoming a possibility, perhaps you could tell me more / explain the logic behind  it.  Much appreciated <img src='http://carolan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Chris</p>
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		<title>By: pcampbell66</title>
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		<dc:creator>pcampbell66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, if you don&#039;t mind me making an observation, I have great respect for your thinking and anlaysis. While I do know that these markets have been pushing people, their money, their views and their patience to the limit, I do NOT understand changing towards looking for strong seasonals here. 

It seems like a tired decision. I think the markets ARE responding as you have mentioned to the dollar...and that a emotional drop in the dollar sets up stocks and commodities for a parabolic pop. A parabolic setup can sometimes look like an emerging new trend. But, I do not see a new trend. 

My criticism of dollar calls in general is that there have been calls nearly every new low for a bottom in the dollar, especially from EWI. (Hochberg really is much to biased bearish for his and subscriber benefit and has messed up badly on this countertrend rally overall, imo) I think that, though there has been discussion regarding an emotional bottom in the dollar, there has been a lot of confusion and lack of patience regarding its progress. Oil&#039;s wave 5 here for example seems likely come in quick pop...on an emotional drop in the dollar...which would look to be a quick affair.

I  just can not view anything having changed in market structure...we still have great trendlines and resistance directly above, lousy internals, timing for a top and a setup for a parabolic blow off - even for stocks.

I just can not understand focusing on looking for positive seasonals...whatever that means.

Though, I was looking for a potential bottom in the dollar (http://m3financialsense.blogspot.com/2009/11/dollar-pattern-broke-supports.html), it was fairly easy to see the pattern was pretty weak or compromised a week ago. I think the bottom will occur on this subwave structure and that you have been right in your observations regarding the dollar...but I am at a loss as to how to interpret this post...

...am I really now to start watching for a seasonally strong rally right when all the parameters are setup for an emotional bottom in the dollar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, if you don&#8217;t mind me making an observation, I have great respect for your thinking and anlaysis. While I do know that these markets have been pushing people, their money, their views and their patience to the limit, I do NOT understand changing towards looking for strong seasonals here. </p>
<p>It seems like a tired decision. I think the markets ARE responding as you have mentioned to the dollar&#8230;and that a emotional drop in the dollar sets up stocks and commodities for a parabolic pop. A parabolic setup can sometimes look like an emerging new trend. But, I do not see a new trend. </p>
<p>My criticism of dollar calls in general is that there have been calls nearly every new low for a bottom in the dollar, especially from EWI. (Hochberg really is much to biased bearish for his and subscriber benefit and has messed up badly on this countertrend rally overall, imo) I think that, though there has been discussion regarding an emotional bottom in the dollar, there has been a lot of confusion and lack of patience regarding its progress. Oil&#8217;s wave 5 here for example seems likely come in quick pop&#8230;on an emotional drop in the dollar&#8230;which would look to be a quick affair.</p>
<p>I  just can not view anything having changed in market structure&#8230;we still have great trendlines and resistance directly above, lousy internals, timing for a top and a setup for a parabolic blow off &#8211; even for stocks.</p>
<p>I just can not understand focusing on looking for positive seasonals&#8230;whatever that means.</p>
<p>Though, I was looking for a potential bottom in the dollar (<a href="http://m3financialsense.blogspot.com/2009/11/dollar-pattern-broke-supports.html" rel="nofollow">http://m3financialsense.blogspot.com/2009/11/dollar-pattern-broke-supports.html</a>), it was fairly easy to see the pattern was pretty weak or compromised a week ago. I think the bottom will occur on this subwave structure and that you have been right in your observations regarding the dollar&#8230;but I am at a loss as to how to interpret this post&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;am I really now to start watching for a seasonally strong rally right when all the parameters are setup for an emotional bottom in the dollar?</p>
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		<title>By: LovesBeta</title>
		<link>http://carolan.org/2009/11/whats-working-what-isnt/comment-page-1/#comment-1371</link>
		<dc:creator>LovesBeta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Solunar and Tidal look Bullish. And there seems to be more room to hit the top of the bands. But I noticed last night, the Euro-Dollar peaked it&#039;s head over 1.5  and then bulled back, tested it, and then pulled back further. It might have been a target level that was reached. We may test it again tomorrow; Don&#039;t know.
Here are some lines annotated on NASDAQ-MCO charts internals:
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww139/LovesBeta/NASDAQ.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Solunar and Tidal look Bullish. And there seems to be more room to hit the top of the bands. But I noticed last night, the Euro-Dollar peaked it&#8217;s head over 1.5  and then bulled back, tested it, and then pulled back further. It might have been a target level that was reached. We may test it again tomorrow; Don&#8217;t know.<br />
Here are some lines annotated on NASDAQ-MCO charts internals:<br />
<a href="http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww139/LovesBeta/NASDAQ.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww139/LovesBeta/NASDAQ.jpg</a></p>
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